state where the jews will be submerged and the arabs will impose sharia or whatever else their islamic religion requires. >> but when you look at the obvious oppression of nearly 2 million palestinians on the gaza strip in particular, it's a terribly depressing -- >> sure. >> helpless situation. >> and they could change it. they could change it. >> can only they change it or do the israelis have to also give a little bit? >> of course. >> everything about compromise? >> of course the israelis have to give, and they will. and omar, who was the prime minister, said he was within a hair's breath of dealing with abu abbas, but it's the fear that the palestinian leadership has that if they enter into a treaty with israel, they will be murdered. >> when you see the political rhetoric being deployed not just there but in washington in particular, it's so vicious now. >> it is. >> you went through a bit of this yourself, very personal in nature. >> yeah. >> when you see it now, is it as bad as it has ever been, do you think? >> worse. i enjoyed my stay in congress. most people today do not. too many pe